Podcasts
Erin and Sepi dive deep into clinical psychology through World War II. They explore the psychology’s roots of prejudice and optimism as the Western world began to their understandings of psychotherapy as a more familiar field. This is the second of a multi-part series on the development of clinical psychology from the late 1800s through today.
References
Cohen, A. (2016). Harvards eugenics era: When academics embraced scientific racism, immigration restrictions, and the suppression of “the unfit.” Harvard Magazine.
Engel, J. (2008). American therapy: The rise of psychotherapy in the United States. Penguin Books.
Farber SA. (2008). U.S. scientists’ role in the eugenics movement (1907-1939): a contemporary biologist’s perspective. Zebrafish. 5(4): 243-5.
Guthrie, R. V. (2004). Even the rat was White: A historical view of psychology (2nd ed.) Pearson Education, Inc.
Herman, J. (1997). Trauma and recovery: The aftermath of violence—from domestic abuse to political terror. Perseus Book Group.
Latson, J. (2015). Why Freud chose Nazi Germany over America. Time USA, LLC.
McCluskey, M. C. (2022). Revitalizing Alfred Adler: an echo for equality. Clinical Social Work Journal, 50(4), 387–399.
Ordover, N. (2003). American Eugenics: Race, Queer Anatomy, and the Science of Nationalism. University of Minnesota Press.
Spielman, R. M., Jenkins, W., & Lovett, M. (2020). Psychology (2nd ed.). OpenStax.
Erin and Sepi interview Ani Khodaverdian about how we can best serve clients who are impacted by intergenerational, wartime trauma as mental health professionals.
Ani graduated from UCLA for undergrad (majored in Philosophy, minored in Armenian studies). She then attended Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles, graduated with a Juris Doctorate, passed the California Bar Exam and became an attorney. She worked as an attorney for a while before deciding to switch careers during the pandemic. She is currently completing her Clinical Psychology degree and she has plans to become a licensed marriage and family therapist.
She is also an artist, feminist, and human rights activist. She runs an Instagram page called @telojantelo where she creates content in hopes of creating cultural and social changes, empowering oppressed groups, educating the public about various topics, and creating community.
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Erin and Sepi dive deep into clinical psychology at the turn of the 19th century until the beginning of World War II. They explore the psychology’s roots of prejudice and optimism as the Western world began to interpret and define the human psyche and experience for the first time. This is the first of a multi-part series on the development of clinical psychology from the late 1800s through today.
References
Cohen, A. (2016). Harvards eugenics era: When academics embraced scientific racism, immigration restrictions, and the suppression of “the unfit.” Harvard Magazine.
Engel, J. (2008). American therapy: The rise of psychotherapy in the United States. Penguin Books.
Guthrie, R. V. (2004). Even the rat was White: A historical view of psychology (2nd ed.) Pearson Education, Inc.
Herman, J. (1997). Trauma and recovery: The aftermath of violence—from domestic abuse to political terror. Perseus Book Group.
Latson, J. (2015). Why Freud chose Nazi Germany over America. Time USA, LLC.
McCluskey, M. C. (2022). Revitalizing Alfred Adler: an echo for equality. Clinical Social Work Journal, 50(4), 387–399.
Ordover, N. (2003). American Eugenics: Race, Queer Anatomy, and the Science of Nationalism. University of Minnesota Press.
Spielman, R. M., Jenkins, W., & Lovett, M. (2020). Psychology (2nd ed.). OpenStax.
Erin and Sepi review Bronfenbrenner’s Bioecological Systems Theory and get heady with complexity and critiques.
Initially criticized for neglecting biological, cognitive processes and focusing solely on the environment, the theory evolved over time to encompass biology’s role in human development. The key components of the theory include Microsystem (direct interactions), Mesosystem (interactions between microsystems), Exosystem (indirect influences), Macrosystem (broader societal influences), and Chronosystem (time and historical context).
Erin argues that Bronfenbrenner’s work highlights the significance of individual psychology, emphasizing that behavior is influenced by perception rather than objective reality.
She suggests that the evolution of the theory should create a subsystem within the Microsystem that includes the individual as a system unto itself.
Complexity theory, as discussed in an interview published on the Mindscape podcast with Dr. Sean Carroll and Dr. David Krakaur is applied to the Bioecological Systems Theory and used to illustrate how to conceptualize systems-thinking in therapeutic relationships.
Sean Carroll’s Mindscape Podcast (2023):
Ep. 242 David Krakauer on Complexity, Agency, and Information
Bronfenbrenner, U. (2005). Making human beings human : Bioecological perspectives on human development (The SAGE program on applied developmental science). Sage Publications
Tudge, J. R. H., Mokrova, I., Hatfield, B. E., & Karnik, R. B. (2009). Uses and misuses of Bronfenbrenner’s bioecological theory of human development. Journal of Family Theory & Review, 1(4), 198–210. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1756-2589.2009.00026.x
Bronfenbrenner, U. (1979). The ecology of human development: experiments by nature and design. Harvard University Press.
An in-depth interview with Professor Nooshin Saraeipour, LMFT, about narrative therapy.
Professor Nooshin Saraeipour, LMFT, holds a Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology with an emphasis on Marriage and Family therapy from Pepperdine University. She earned her Bachelor of Sciences in Agricultural Engineering in Iran, emphasizing food science and technology. She is currently working as an LMFT in her own private practice. She is also an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University’s on-campus program and online division.
Throughout her journey as a therapist, she has gained valuable experience working with individuals, children, adolescents, and families in various settings such as private practice, nonprofit organizations, community clinics, and county-contracted outpatient agencies. Her passion and focus is working with issues unique to women experiencing difficulties in life stages, including marriage, intimate partner and relationship issues, self-image, pregnancy, motherhood, infertility, and immigration and acculturation issues.
In other words, “empowering women” opens her heart and lifts her soul.
Her therapeutic approach is grounded in postmodern and strengths-based therapy practices. She wholeheartedly believes in coming alongside her clients in their sacred healing path while recognizing each client’s unique experience through a collaborative, curious, respectful, and empathic lens. She longs to help her clients give voice to their stories, articulate their challenges, and identify their strengths, knowledge, and new possibilities that are often overshadowed by problem stories so they can reclaim their preferred way of living. She connects to her curious and joyful spirit through travel, especially to the motherland, yoga, and quality time with her beloved son, friends, and family.
Contact for Professor Nooshin Saraeipour, LMFT
Email Nooshin.Saraeipour@peppeprdine.edu
Instagram @tannaazs
Show notes / Resources
Miracle Mile community practice ( LA)
Narrative Therapy Library The Narrative Therapy Library is an online collection of resources curated by Dr. Stephen Madigan, a prominent narrative therapist. It includes videos, interviews, articles, and training materials that offer an in-depth understanding of narrative therapy approaches and techniques. Access to the library requires a subscription.
The Narrative Therapy Initiative The Narrative Therapy Initiative, based in Santa Rosa, California, offers workshops, training programs, and consultations in narrative therapy. They provide resources for therapists, educators, and anyone interested in narrative approaches. Their website contains information about their offerings and additional resources.
Narrative Practices Narrative Practices, located in Berkeley, California, offers therapy services, training, and consultation in narrative therapy. Their website includes articles, recommended books, and links to other narrative therapy resources.
Jun 15 / 15:10
Erin and Sepi talk to Dr. Jaz Robbins about health psychology and the framing of healing through a biopsychosocial perspective. Topics of brain health and mental health, and scientific integrity in psychology are also discussed.
Dr. Jaz Robbins is a therapist, nutritionist, author, public speaker, poet, and stage performer. She was also Erin’s ethics professor at Pepperdine University. In addition to being a professor, Dr. Jaz Robbins is a trauma therapist with extensive training in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Cognitive Processing Therapy, Dialectical Behavior Therapy, Multicultural Psychology, Person-Centered Therapy, and Psychodynamic Theory.
Dr. Jaz places client culture, identity, and individuality at the center of her work. For her, the goal of therapy is to help individuals recenter, regain their focus, and reclaim their joy. Dr. Jaz utilizes an integrative approach in her practice, encouraging clients to play an active role in their healing. One integrative approach she takes is integrating nutrition into her practice. We were overjoyed to have her speak about this intersection of these interests in this interview.
A shorter conversation with Sepi and Erin about keeping autonomy in wellness spaces.
This is the last of a 3-part conversation with certified Death Doula, Chauncey O’Dell, about what a death doula is and how we can support the dying process as future therapists.
Resources
Death Doula Trainings
Antiracist Practitioner Training
Grief Support for Caregivers
Resources for the Process of Dying
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This is the second of a 3-part conversation with certified Death Doula, Chauncey O’Dell, about what a death doula is and how we can support the dying process as future therapists.
Resources
Death Doula Trainings
Antiracist Practitioner Training
Grief Support for Caregivers
Resources for the Process of Dying
This is the first of a 3-part conversation with certified Death Doula, Chauncey O’Dell, about what a death doula is and how we can support the dying process as future therapists.
Resources
Death Doula Trainings
Antiracist Practitioner Training
Grief Support for Caregivers
Resources for the Process of Dying
Sepi and Erin continue to dive into defense processes as defined by Nancy McWilliams in her book “Psychoanalytic Diagnosis.” Topics covered include the secondary defense processes of repression, regression, isolation of affect, intellectualization, rationalization, moralization, compartmentalization, undoing, turning against the self, displacement, reaction formation, reversal, identification, sublimation, and humor.
Sepi and Erin continue to dive into defense processes as defined by Nancy McWilliams in her book “Psychoanalytic Diagnosis.” Topics covered included splitting of the ego, somatization, acting out, sexualization, and extreme dissociation.
Sepi and Erin start to dive into defense processes as defined by Nancy McWilliams in her book “Psychoanalytic Diagnosis.” Topics covered included extreme withdrawal, denial, omnipotent control, extreme idealization and devaluation, projection, introjection, and projective identification.
Erin and Sepi discuss Internal Family Systems (IFS) as a therapeutic model after attending a workshop hosted by the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapy (CAMFT) with Sayun Scotton, M.A., LMFT, on September 16, 2022.
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First Erin and Sepi review attachment history, patterns, and how it’s measured, and then friend of the pod, Fin Woodmansee, presents on the nested trauma model of attachment and redefining attachment to be more inclusive of love in polyamorous relationships outside the framework of monogamy.
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Sepi and Erin reflect on the Clearly Clinical podcast, “Light up the Couch”, where the host Elizabeth Irias, LMFT, interviews Cynthia Mulder, LCSW, about shame in the therapy room. Topics covered include the difference between embarrassment, humiliation, guilt, and shame and how to support resilience to shame in the therapy room.
Show Notes
Ep. 157 Listening for Shame in Psychotherapy
by Clearly Clinical
Shame in the Therapy Hour Book
Edited by Ronda Dearing, Phd & June Tangney
1:14:20
Sepi and Erin talk to Professor Bergen about cultivating authentic communication in the therapy room. He provides practical tools and frameworks to understand the essential components of communication.
Kevin Bergen is a licensed therapist, author, and professor at Pepperdine University.
He is also a director and therapist at the Center for Counseling, Recovery, & Growth and a coach at Courageous Decisions Coaching. He specializes in helping men through the transition from feeling unappreciated, misunderstood, disrespected, and powerless to feeling recognized, heard, respected, and empowered.
Show Notes:
Professor Bergen’s podcast:
Courses with Professor Bergen:
Fall in Love With Your Wife . . . All Over Again!
Limor broadcasts:
All In podcast episode with Melaney Tagg (referenced at the end of this podcast)
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Sepi shares what she learned from a recent training on Existential Theory. Erin and Sepi then reflect on the implications of acceptance, grief, transitions, and what it means to be an individual and member of a family, and community who is living in the here and now.
Resource:
1:10:39
A presentation by Professor Dr. Delgado, who discusses working with sexually exploited children, followed by a discussion with Dr. Delgado, Sepi, and Erin.
The Child and Adolescent Needs and Strengths (CANS)
The Child and Adolescent Needs and Strengths (CANS) – Praed Foundation
TF-CBT (treatment modality)
NOW AVAILABLE: TF-CBT for Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children (CSEC) Implementation Manual – Trauma Focus Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Certification Program (tfcbt.org)
Polaris Project
Multi-Disciplinary Treatment Planning
Growth Renewed through Acceptance, Change, and Empowerment (G.R.A.C.E.) Court
G.R.A.C.E Court (flcourts.org)
For help, contact the National Human Trafficking Hotline at 1-888-373-7888
humantraffickinghotline.org.
LGBT National Youth Talk Line
LGBT National Youth Talk Line: 800-246-7743
Thorn.Org
Survivor Insights: Sex Trafficking & the Role of Tech | Thorn
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A discussion with Professor Quiné Jones, MA, AMFT, about her professional journey, career development, and staying grounded when days get tough.
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